1 00:00:04,710 --> 00:00:01,270 um 2 00:00:06,150 --> 00:00:04,720 i i purposely up and up until recently 3 00:00:08,549 --> 00:00:06,160 haven't talked too much about any 4 00:00:10,390 --> 00:00:08,559 sightings that i've had um i don't feel 5 00:00:11,910 --> 00:00:10,400 that as an individual my sightings are 6 00:00:14,310 --> 00:00:11,920 compelling enough that they provide 7 00:00:16,070 --> 00:00:14,320 evidence they're just anecdotal so it's 8 00:00:17,830 --> 00:00:16,080 something that i add to the to the pile 9 00:00:20,070 --> 00:00:17,840 of other other people's stories and look 10 00:00:22,150 --> 00:00:20,080 for for connections 11 00:00:23,990 --> 00:00:22,160 but um i'll give you a more detailed 12 00:00:25,830 --> 00:00:24,000 explanation um 13 00:00:28,070 --> 00:00:25,840 it was probably around 14 00:00:30,390 --> 00:00:28,080 11 30 it was near midnight i think 15 00:00:31,830 --> 00:00:30,400 between the hours of 11 and midnight my 16 00:00:33,910 --> 00:00:31,840 family was asleep 17 00:00:35,750 --> 00:00:33,920 um it had been a long day i was for some 18 00:00:37,110 --> 00:00:35,760 reason i was still in my uniform i was 19 00:00:39,270 --> 00:00:37,120 still in khakis 20 00:00:40,950 --> 00:00:39,280 and um i was sitting outside chain 21 00:00:42,310 --> 00:00:40,960 smoking and playing a video game called 22 00:00:43,190 --> 00:00:42,320 e-republic 23 00:00:45,110 --> 00:00:43,200 um 24 00:00:47,910 --> 00:00:45,120 and i've been hyper focused you know 25 00:00:49,190 --> 00:00:47,920 very tunnel visioned um on the screen 26 00:00:51,189 --> 00:00:49,200 you know to the point that i didn't even 27 00:00:52,709 --> 00:00:51,199 see the whole world around me because 28 00:00:53,990 --> 00:00:52,719 you know how it is you can when you're i 29 00:00:56,150 --> 00:00:54,000 was outside in the dark at a little 30 00:00:57,510 --> 00:00:56,160 bistro table in my yard 31 00:00:59,510 --> 00:00:57,520 um 32 00:01:01,189 --> 00:00:59,520 and looking back i wasn't a meditator at 33 00:01:04,070 --> 00:01:01,199 the time but looking back that was that 34 00:01:06,469 --> 00:01:04,080 was flow state i was i was in flow i was 35 00:01:08,070 --> 00:01:06,479 writing and and playing the 36 00:01:09,670 --> 00:01:08,080 the game and 37 00:01:12,310 --> 00:01:09,680 very focused 38 00:01:13,910 --> 00:01:12,320 and when i finally decided just to just 39 00:01:15,190 --> 00:01:13,920 to reach up and close the computer 40 00:01:17,270 --> 00:01:15,200 because i knew it was getting too late i 41 00:01:19,270 --> 00:01:17,280 had to be up early and everything else 42 00:01:21,270 --> 00:01:19,280 i closed the computer 43 00:01:24,310 --> 00:01:21,280 and i stood up and i was standing just 44 00:01:25,749 --> 00:01:24,320 outside my front door facing due east 45 00:01:28,550 --> 00:01:25,759 smoking a cigarette 46 00:01:29,910 --> 00:01:28,560 and i was looking out at a clear totally 47 00:01:31,749 --> 00:01:29,920 clear night sky 48 00:01:33,590 --> 00:01:31,759 and i was looking at the stars that were 49 00:01:35,510 --> 00:01:33,600 above the horizon 50 00:01:36,550 --> 00:01:35,520 and they were blinking they were going 51 00:01:38,390 --> 00:01:36,560 away 52 00:01:40,310 --> 00:01:38,400 um the stars were 53 00:01:41,749 --> 00:01:40,320 were basically you know being occluded 54 00:01:43,910 --> 00:01:41,759 by something 55 00:01:47,030 --> 00:01:43,920 and i could tell that this thing was 56 00:01:48,630 --> 00:01:47,040 moving from the horizon slowly 57 00:01:50,230 --> 00:01:48,640 because of the way that stars were 58 00:01:51,830 --> 00:01:50,240 disappearing but i couldn't figure out 59 00:01:53,590 --> 00:01:51,840 if i was looking at a 60 00:01:54,550 --> 00:01:53,600 large rain cloud 61 00:01:55,749 --> 00:01:54,560 but 62 00:01:58,069 --> 00:01:55,759 i mean all these things were happening 63 00:02:00,230 --> 00:01:58,079 at once and a lot of it the recall is is 64 00:02:02,550 --> 00:02:00,240 weird to try to do but i knew the wind 65 00:02:04,230 --> 00:02:02,560 was blowing in the opposite direction a 66 00:02:06,630 --> 00:02:04,240 lot of things didn't make sense and i'm 67 00:02:08,869 --> 00:02:06,640 squinting and really getting interested 68 00:02:11,110 --> 00:02:08,879 in what this thing is and as it starts 69 00:02:14,070 --> 00:02:11,120 to actually the apex of it starts to 70 00:02:16,070 --> 00:02:14,080 actually go over the top of my house 71 00:02:17,990 --> 00:02:16,080 and if people are going to ask me the 72 00:02:19,990 --> 00:02:18,000 the altitude it's really hard to gauge 73 00:02:21,110 --> 00:02:20,000 because the size of the thing 74 00:02:22,949 --> 00:02:21,120 was 75 00:02:25,830 --> 00:02:22,959 ridiculous 76 00:02:28,309 --> 00:02:25,840 um so it was at least it seemed to be at 77 00:02:30,869 --> 00:02:28,319 least a couple football fields wide 78 00:02:32,470 --> 00:02:30,879 meaning a couple of hundred yards from 79 00:02:34,070 --> 00:02:32,480 tip to tip 80 00:02:36,710 --> 00:02:34,080 um i guess that would mean you know 81 00:02:40,070 --> 00:02:36,720 equilateral because it was equilateral 82 00:02:41,110 --> 00:02:40,080 um it had no lights that i could see 83 00:02:42,710 --> 00:02:41,120 um 84 00:02:44,470 --> 00:02:42,720 it was reflecting now that i think about 85 00:02:45,830 --> 00:02:44,480 it was reflecting a small amount of moon 86 00:02:48,390 --> 00:02:45,840 light 87 00:02:50,390 --> 00:02:48,400 and i heard the wind going over 88 00:02:52,309 --> 00:02:50,400 it seemed i heard the wind as it was 89 00:02:53,910 --> 00:02:52,319 moving you know i heard the wind over 90 00:02:55,589 --> 00:02:53,920 the outside of the craft as if you were 91 00:02:58,229 --> 00:02:55,599 moving something large through the air 92 00:03:01,110 --> 00:02:58,239 but there's no engine sound 93 00:03:02,070 --> 00:03:01,120 as it passed overhead i was kind of 94 00:03:06,390 --> 00:03:02,080 going 95 00:03:11,110 --> 00:03:08,390 the tic tac had been 96 00:03:13,509 --> 00:03:11,120 five or six months before 97 00:03:15,110 --> 00:03:13,519 and there was a 48 hour period on board 98 00:03:17,910 --> 00:03:15,120 the ship where i knew we had had a 99 00:03:19,670 --> 00:03:17,920 roswell type event that should go down 100 00:03:22,149 --> 00:03:19,680 in history 101 00:03:24,149 --> 00:03:22,159 um and we didn't seem to care about it 102 00:03:25,830 --> 00:03:24,159 and i i think i kind of 103 00:03:27,270 --> 00:03:25,840 compartmentalized that you know i went a 104 00:03:28,869 --> 00:03:27,280 lot of different directions with it i 105 00:03:30,390 --> 00:03:28,879 just assumed that it's probably us that 106 00:03:31,750 --> 00:03:30,400 was a really safe feeling to have 107 00:03:32,789 --> 00:03:31,760 knowing i didn't want to be floating out 108 00:03:35,509 --> 00:03:32,799 for the next 109 00:03:37,589 --> 00:03:35,519 12 years knowing that there was 110 00:03:39,190 --> 00:03:37,599 crazy tech surrounding us um so who 111 00:03:41,830 --> 00:03:39,200 knows what i did psychologically but 112 00:03:43,190 --> 00:03:41,840 five five or so months later 113 00:03:44,830 --> 00:03:43,200 i just wasn't ready to turn around and 114 00:03:48,390 --> 00:03:44,840 see that 115 00:03:50,710 --> 00:03:48,400 um and i as it went over the top as it 116 00:03:51,990 --> 00:03:50,720 went overhead it sped up 117 00:03:54,149 --> 00:03:52,000 and we used to have these two really 118 00:03:56,229 --> 00:03:54,159 large palm trees for reference that i 119 00:03:58,309 --> 00:03:56,239 turned around and i watched it go over 120 00:04:00,229 --> 00:03:58,319 the top of the palm tree and i was going 121 00:04:01,910 --> 00:04:00,239 to lose sight of it right behind the 122 00:04:04,869 --> 00:04:01,920 palm tree 123 00:04:06,630 --> 00:04:04,879 and i ran to the the west end of my yard 124 00:04:07,990 --> 00:04:06,640 and jumped up on this rickety table we 125 00:04:09,750 --> 00:04:08,000 had built 126 00:04:12,789 --> 00:04:09,760 and i remembered the next morning 127 00:04:15,030 --> 00:04:12,799 because i busted off the um the bistro 128 00:04:16,069 --> 00:04:15,040 umbrella it's wooden it had this little 129 00:04:17,430 --> 00:04:16,079 brass thing in the middle and just 130 00:04:19,509 --> 00:04:17,440 cracked it right in half jumping up on 131 00:04:22,150 --> 00:04:19,519 the table to catch one last glimpse of 132 00:04:24,790 --> 00:04:22,160 this thing as it tipped over on its port 133 00:04:26,950 --> 00:04:24,800 wing edge and just we have this term in 134 00:04:29,430 --> 00:04:26,960 the navy called we say zorched it's just 135 00:04:31,830 --> 00:04:29,440 zorched it just it was 136 00:04:34,710 --> 00:04:31,840 and i say it got smaller or it went away 137 00:04:37,030 --> 00:04:34,720 because without sound and light 138 00:04:38,790 --> 00:04:37,040 reference and no effect 139 00:04:40,870 --> 00:04:38,800 you know given that we're talking about 140 00:04:43,430 --> 00:04:40,880 the phenomenon we assume 141 00:04:46,469 --> 00:04:43,440 um i can't say exactly what it did it 142 00:04:48,230 --> 00:04:46,479 just receded it went away from my vision 143 00:04:50,390 --> 00:04:48,240 and perception 144 00:04:53,590 --> 00:04:50,400 and i stood on top of that table for 145 00:04:58,790 --> 00:04:53,600 probably five minutes just jaw a gate 146 00:05:03,830 --> 00:05:01,029 i just went to bed 147 00:05:04,950 --> 00:05:03,840 i never told anybody about that i mean i 148 00:05:09,029 --> 00:05:04,960 drew it 149 00:05:10,629 --> 00:05:09,039 i wrote down what happened 150 00:05:13,510 --> 00:05:10,639 but i wasn't somebody who was like holy 151 00:05:15,909 --> 00:05:13,520 crap i just saw a giant ufo 152 00:05:18,230 --> 00:05:15,919 no i i told friends and family about the 153 00:05:19,909 --> 00:05:18,240 tic tac incident like i said there was 154 00:05:21,830 --> 00:05:19,919 i wasn't asked to sign an nda there was 155 00:05:24,150 --> 00:05:21,840 no classification around it 156 00:05:25,670 --> 00:05:24,160 um and so when it came out in the news 157 00:05:27,029 --> 00:05:25,680 it was they knew exactly what they were 158 00:05:28,870 --> 00:05:27,039 looking at friends and family they were 159 00:05:30,870 --> 00:05:28,880 the ones that were telling me about the 160 00:05:34,390 --> 00:05:30,880 times article 161 00:05:37,350 --> 00:05:35,670 people asked me what did you think it 162 00:05:39,029 --> 00:05:37,360 was where do you think it's from i don't 163 00:05:40,870 --> 00:05:39,039 have any of those answers it was a big 164 00:05:43,029 --> 00:05:40,880 black triangle it didn't make any noise 165 00:05:44,310 --> 00:05:43,039 it was going super slow and it was way 166 00:05:47,510 --> 00:05:44,320 too big 167 00:05:49,350 --> 00:05:47,520 yeah and at this point in my career my 168 00:05:51,749 --> 00:05:49,360 second career of what we all do with 169 00:05:53,670 --> 00:05:51,759 this subject i don't believe that was 170 00:05:55,270 --> 00:05:53,680 tech made by 171 00:05:57,830 --> 00:05:55,280 you and i or anybody with an email 172 00:06:00,070 --> 00:05:57,840 address or that pays taxes or 173 00:06:02,550 --> 00:06:00,080 or lives in the world that we operate in 174 00:06:05,189 --> 00:06:02,560 i don't i can't find a way to make that 175 00:06:09,189 --> 00:06:07,510 but i know i saw what i saw and when i 176 00:06:10,550 --> 00:06:09,199 got up got back up in the morning i went